Why Mormons Don’t Believe In The Trinity … Part 3

If you’ve read Part I and Part II of “Why Mormons Don’t Believe In The Trinity” then you’re probably sick of reading about the doctrine of the trinity by now. But if you’re not sick of it yet…then I’m looking to bring it all together and unload a bunch of scriptures in this last part; Part III.

For years on end, the whole of Christianity has been subjected to the creeds of the past.  For about 1700 years, Christians believed in a literal but mystical oneness of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. The people were told that God was not someone or something that could be understood. Any attempt to understand God would be futile…so “hey…we’ll just hang on to these here scriptures and put them in our vaults…and oh by the way…if you try to read them, you’ll be exiled or burned at the stake.” No thanks! Everyone was just expected to take the clergies word for it. The mystery of the ages! What in the world was hiding in those scriptures and did it agree with the creeds?

You tell me?

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The Father is Greater Than Christ

John 14:28 – “I go unto the Father, for my Father is Greater than I”

How else can this be read or understood?

Sin Against Christ = Forgiven, Sin Against The Holy Ghost = Toast

Matthew 12:31-32 – “whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him.”

If Christ is the same person as the Holy Ghost, then why can you sin against Christ and be forgiven, but sin against the Holy Ghost and never be forgiven?


Heirs of God, Joint-Heirs With Christ

Romans 8:16-17 & Acts 17:29 – “we are the children of God: And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ.”

So…both Acts and Romans among other verses tell us that we are children of the Father. Why would Paul distinguish being an “heir” of God from a “joint-heir” with Jesus Christ? If you ever thought a Mormon was crazy for telling you that Christ was their spirit brother…then this scripture might change your mind. One thing is certain here though. Our relationship with Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ are definitely different!

Mount of Transfiguration

Matthew 17: 4-5 – “voice out of the cloud, which said, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye him”

Why would Christ cause His own voice to come out of heaven in order to tell His apostles to listen to Him. He was right there next to them!

Christ Always Glorified The Father…Not Himself

John 12:26-30 – “if any man serve me, him will my Father honour. Now is my soul troubled; and what shall I say? Father, save me from this hour: but for this cause came I unto this hour. Father, glorify thy name. Then came there a voice from heaven, saying, I have both glorified it, and will glorify it again.”

Why wouldn’t Christ just say that He was glorifying Himself number one. Number two…why would He cause a voice from heaven to emanate from heaven? Was He trying to create a dialogue between himself in heaven and himself on earth?

Stephen Sees The Father & The Son

Acts 7:55-56 – “Jesus standing on the right hand of God…and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God.”

Why would Stephen say anything other than exactly what he saw in his last seconds in life. As Paul stood by, Stephen was being stoned…and just before he was about to die, he witnessed Heavenly Father with Jesus Christ standing to the right of Him as a separate and distinct personage. Why would God give Stephen that vision in his last moments?

Christ Takes A Book From The Father

Revelation 5:1-7 – “he came and took the book out of the right hand of him that sat upon the throne.”

Christ is represented as the lamb that is the only one worthy to open a seal. Then He is depicted as approaching the throne of God and taking the book out of the “right hand of Him that sat upon the throne.” Christ took the book from His Father’s right hand. The illustration is as clear as day. Did you catch the fact that Heavenly Father has a hand!?

Jesus Compares Himself and His Father to “Two Men”

John 8:16-18 – “written in your law, that the testimony of two men is true. I am one that bear witness of myself, and the Father that sent me beareth witness of me.”

First off…Christ cannot and does not lie. He just compared Himself and His Father to “two men”. If they were just one man, or one entity…then He couldn’t lie to us and tell us that they were in fact two men. Men of Holiness…none the less.

Be Like Father

Matt 5:48 – “Be like your Father in Heaven”

Christ wants us to be perfect like our Father in Heaven…but if He and the Father were one, then why wouldn’t He just tell us to be perfect like He is instead of creating the illusion of a Father?


The Lord’s Prayer

Matthew 6:9 – “Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.”

Imagine this. The Lord is teaching people how to pray. Why does He ask them to pray to His other identity? If they are the same…why can’t people just pray to Christ?

The Doctrine Isn’t Christ’s

John 7:16-17 – “My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me.”

The doctrine is not Christ’s. Who’s is it then?

You tired yet?

The Father Doesn’t Judge

John 5:22 – “the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son”

So if Christ is in charge of the judging…and Christ is the Father…then…?

Confess Christ and He’ll Advocate For You To The Father

Matthew 10: 32-33 – “Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven. But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.”

The imagery of a mediator and advocate is beautiful…as long as there are three people in the image.

Peter Learned Who Jesus Was From The Father

Matthew 16: 13-19 – “Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Bar-jona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.”

Even though Peter was standing right in front of Jesus’s face…It was a different person (The Father) who gave Peter a witness of who Jesus Christ actually was.

Even As A Child…

Luke 2: 41-51 – “wist ye not that I must be about my Father’s business?”

Even as a boy…Jesus was testifying of His divine sonship. Would He have had the presence of mind to know of his other self in heaven and then call Himself His own Father?

The Temple Was His Father’s House

John 2:13-16 – “make not my Father’s house an house of merchandise.”

Notice He didn’t say “His house”

He Lifted His Eyes To Heaven

John 11: 41-43 – “Jesus lifted up his eyes, and said, Father, I thank thee that thou hast heard me.”

Why did Jesus lift His head to heaven while praying before raising Lazarus from the dead? Who was He looking at?

We’re All One

John 17:11 – “keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are.”

John 17:20-21 – “Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word; That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us:”

Christ said He and His Father were one…yes…thats correct. But what was he meaning when He said He wanted us to become one with Him and the Father?

Thy Will Be Done

Luke 22:41-43 – “Father, if thou be willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done”

In that secluded Garden at the Mt. of Olives…Christ asked His Father if there was another way. There wasn’t. But why would He ask? Wouldn’t He already know if He was the Father?

Father Forgive Them

Luke 23:34 – “Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do”

Wouldn’t He just forgive them right then and there?

Christ Has a “God”

Mark 15: 34 – “My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?”

Christ is calling someone else “God”. Even in His final hour. He’s been consistent with that relationship since He was a child. It is consistent all throughout the scriptures.

Christ Commends His Spirit

Luke 23:46 – “Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit”

Why?

My Father and Your Father

John 20:17 – “I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.”

Even after Christ is resurrected, there is no mistake about it. He has a relationship with another person, separate from Himself, that He considers “His Father” and “His God”.

But Satan doesn’t want you to know all of this does he! No wonder he did his best to keep those scriptures under wraps for almost two millennia! And if  Satan could eradicate the earth of one thing…what would it be?

You guessed it.

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Satan doesn’t want anyone to know God or comprehend His character. I can imagine him concocting a plan many years ago in which he envisioned a day where 40,000 different Christian denominations would argue among themselves about the nature of God.

Why? Because then everyone will start building their own Jesus…and if Jesus “is the way” (John 14:6) …then Satan wants to make “the way” as cloudy and confusing as possible.

(Now stay with me over this next paragraph. There is a huge key to understanding Satan’s strategy.)

John knew it was going to be like this. He tells us in Revelation Chapter 17. It was “Babylon” that was going to fight against God which makes it important to determine exactly what strategy Babylon was going to use in order wage that war against the saints of God. Peter refers to Rome as Babylon in 1 Peter 5:13 and John states that Babylon sits in and around 7 mountains. Rome was established in and around 7 mountains. But Babylon isn’t just one city. It’s an idea, a concept, a philosophy that is injected by Satan into powerful civilizations.

Rome’s political power and corruption made it a perfect place for Satan to carry out his plan. Rome, in those days, was the representation of everything contrary to the gospel. They had pagan gods, no scruples, and the worlds worst politicians and rulers. They were “drunken with the blood of the saints and the blood of the martyrs of Jesus” meaning they sought to exterminate them during the “10 pagan persecutions”.

It says that the “kings of the earth hath committed fornication with her, and the inhabitants have been made drunk by the wine of her fornication.”

So first she got them “drunk” and then she corrupted them (the kings of the earth) with her ways. She was “arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls”… meaning she was lavish, and rich, and powerful.

And guess upon whose back she sat? “Upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy.” Thats right. Satan was driving the bus. So Babylon, in short, was a representation of “the world” led by Satan to derail and fight against truth. He was using the strongest, richest, and most powerful army in the world at the time to do just this one thing!

And here it is…right in the New Testament in big bold letters. It’s the only place I know of in the scriptures that as many bold letters are used. It’s got to be important!

In Revelation 17:5, guess what is written upon this woman’s forehead that John saw?

That word…

MYSTERY!

It’s right there in front of our faces.

The smartest thing the general of any army can do is confuse his opposing army. Take out communications and watch chaos ensue.

He started with the kings of the earth because they were also normally the ecclesiastical leaders for their countries as well. The kings mandated the clergy and the clergy perpetuated the “lies about God” that began with the creeds of the ecumenical councils organized by Roman emperors. (see Jeremiah 16:19; 23: 14–32)

Do you see what has happened! Satan is winning…because everyone on the spiritual battle field is confused by this mystery!

One day in 1820, a boy walked out of a grove of trees and opened our eyes with his testimony of the Father and The Son. The New Testament is his witness.

In reading those scriptures, and looking at early Christian history…it becomes easy to see that the creeds of the past must be replaced by the prophets of the future.

Once and for all…Mormons do understand, reverence, and worship Jesus The “Anointed One” of Nazareth! The same Jesus that is found in the New Testament.

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